Legislature(1997 - 1998)

02/19/1997 01:54 PM Senate JUD

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       SJR  3 PRISONER RIGHTS LIMITED TO FEDERAL RIGHTS                       
                                                                              
  SENATOR DAVE DONLEY , sponsor of SJR 3, discussed changes made to a          
 proposed committee substitute.  CSSJR 3(JUD) was broadened to                 
 encompass all rights currently provided to prisoners in Alaska.               
 Traditionally, prisoners rights in the U.S. have stemmed from the             
 federal cruel and unusual punishment clause.  Under the Alaska                
 Constitution, Alaska courts might extend due process clause rights            
 to prisoners.  CSSJR 3(JUD) now reads, "The rights and protections            
 and the extent of those rights and protections afforded to                    
 prisoners by this constitution shall be limited to those rights and           
 protections and the extent of those rights and protections afforded           
 to prisoners under the Constitution of the United States" to                  
 encompass Alaska's due process rights that have been interpreted              
 differently from those under the U.S. Constitution.                           
                                                                               
 TAPE 97-9, SIDE B                                                             
 Number 568                                                                    
                                                                               
  SENATOR PARNELL  asked what other prisoners' rights might change             
 under CSSJR 3(JUD).   SENATOR DONLEY  replied Alaska is required to           
 provide and maintain a law library and photocopier, among other               
 specific things, according to the Cleary settlement.  The federal             
 Constitution allows for less expensive, alternative means to                  
 guarantee prisoners access to the courts and other areas.  Under              
 CSSJR 3 (JUD), Alaska would still have to provide the means to                
 legal access approved by federal courts, but would not have to                
 maintain an updated law library in every institution.  Another                
 distinguishable feature of prisoners' rights is the provision of              
 rehabilitation programs, mandated by the Alaska Constitution.                 
                                                                               
  SENATOR PARNELL  moved to adopt CSSJR 3 (0-LSO268\E) as the working          
 draft of the committee.  There being no objection, CSSJR 3 was                
 adopted.                                                                      
                                                                               
  SENATOR PARNELL  asked Senator Donley to elaborate on the purpose of         
 SJR 3, because he finds it ironic that Alaska would want to be                
 subject to the federal Constitution instead of our own state's                
 Constitution.  He noted he is troubled by the implications of                 
 taking this action related to other federal issues, such as the               
 state sovereignty issue.                                                      
                                                                               
  SENATOR DONLEY  replied there are two reasons.  Alaska's                     
 Constitution provides its citizens with more individual rights than           
 those under the U.S. Constitution.  We think of those rights as               
 applying to law-abiding citizens in the general population.  When             
 those rights are extended into the prison system they create a                
 different standard than that provided under the federal                       
 constitution.  While Alaska courts may interpret the Alaska                   
 Constitution to extend those individual rights to prisoners, that             
 extension may not be the wisest public policy.  Second, the Cleary            
 settlement can only be revisited if significant changes occur.  SJR
 3 would create a significant enough change to allow renegotiation.            
                                                                               
 Number 437                                                                    
                                                                               
  SENATOR PARNELL  asked if SJR 3 would apply only to convicted, and           
 not pre-trial, prisoners.   SENATOR DONLEY  said the federal standard         
 prohibiting cruel and unusual punishment only applies to people who           
 have been convicted and incarcerated but Alaska Courts could extend           
 due process rights to those prisoners as well.  His intent, when              
 drafting SJR 3, was that it only apply to people who have been                
 convicted and incarcerated.  He was unsure whether Alaska has any             
 distinct rights for pre-trial prisoners separate from federal                 
 constitutional rights.                                                        
                                                                               
  SENATOR PARNELL  noted Alaska's right against self incrimination is          
 much broader than the federal right; the Legislature passed a                 
 discovery bill during the previous session in an attempt to get the           
 Supreme Court to narrow the scope.   SENATOR DONLEY  believed that is         
 not an element of one's incarceration, but is a separate issue.               
                                                                               
 Number 409                                                                    
                                                                               
  SENATOR PARNELL  suggested including a definition of "prisoners" in          
 the resolution to clarify it applies to convicted prisoners, not              
 pre-trial prisoners.     SENATOR DONLEY  believed the court would have        
 difficulty applying it to anyone other than prisoners who are                 
 incarcerated after conviction because otherwise there would be a              
 dual system of rules for pre-trial prisoners: those who could make            
 bail, and those who could not.                                                
                                                                               
  BRUCE RICHARDS , Special Assistant to the Commissioner at the                
 Department of Corrections, did not state a position on SJR 3, but             
 submitted the following testimony for the record on behalf of                 
 Commissioner Pugh.                                                            
                                                                               
 I understand that discussion in the last hearing included some               
 thought that if the Department did not have to abide by the                   
 caps set by the Court that we could put more prisoners in                     
 existing correctional facilities.                                             
                                                                               
 I wanted to take the opportunity to go into that premise a                   
 little deeper.  From a correctional management standpoint,                    
 overcrowding is not solely created by the Court caps.  I                      
 welcome the opportunity to discuss with the committee the                     
 other issues that limit the number of inmates that can be                     
 housed in a facility.                                                         
                                                                               
 1.  Inmate management, security, and programs are impacted                   
 negatively.  I am firmly on record regarding the dangers of                   
 increased violence, not enough work or treatment programs to                  
 keep inmates busy, and the dangers inherent in inmate idleness                
 in a correctional institution.  In addition to idleness, the                  
 ability to deliver rehabilitative programs decreases.  And on                 
 top of it all, the staff are stretched too thinly to provide                  
 a safe level of oversight.  I could speak at great length                     
 about these conditions.  I've spent the better part of the                    
 last 26 years of my career in and around institutions in                      
 Alaska - as a Superintendent and as a line worker - so I                      
 believe I can attest to what I tell you, not just from a                      
 theoretical or philosophical standpoint, but from actual                      
 hands-on experience in Alaska.                                                
                                                                               
 2.  The other issue involved in placing more prisoners in an                 
 institution needs to be discussed.  That is that each facility                
 was designed to support a specified prisoner population.                      
 There is a limited capability to absorb increases in                          
 population.  What I'm talking about is design capacity of                     
 physical plants.                                                              
                                                                               
 -There are fire, life safety, and building codes to consider.                
 There is the Uniform Fire Code, the Uniform Building Code, the                
 Uniform Mechanical Code, the American Society of Heating,                     
 Refrigeration and Air Conditioning Engineers (ASHRAE)                         
 standards, the Uniform Plumbing Code, not to mention DEC, EPA                 
 considerations, OSHA and ADA.                                                 
                                                                               
 -Someone said to me the other day that it is like an elevator                
 that is rated for X pounds.  That doesn't mean that you can't                 
 put more pounds in it, but that you tempt system failure with                 
 potentially disastrous results if you exceed the rating -- and                
 the problem is exacerbated if you exceed the rating every                     
 single time the elevator is called into service.                              
                                                                               
 -I want to give you a few examples of just what I mean.  HMCC                
 in Eagle River is rated for x gallons of effluence handled by                 
 the sewer system and draining into Eagle River.  That                         
 translates into 285 inmates.  We run the sewer treatment                      
 system and measure the outfall and report to DEC.  We're right                
 at 285.  So even if we could put more bunks in cells there, we                
 would not be able to handle the sewage problem.                               
                                                                               
 -One other comment about sewer discharge: too much sewer                     
 discharge in undersized lines can back up badly.  UPC                         
 requirements aren't to be taken lightly.  Just last month at                  
 Spring Creek the sewer system backed up into the kitchen, we                  
 had raw sewage in the kitchen area which had to be closed,                    
 system unclogged, kitchen sanitized and the sandwiches bought                 
 from AVTec.                                                                   
                                                                               
 At Palmer Correctional Center in Sutton we have 2 wells.  And                
 the water system and well capacity are at maximum capacity.                   
 We are double bunked at Palmer.  Even if we could triple bunk,                
 which we can't, we would need to put in a new well.  We                       
 included the cost of a new well in our bond bill last year                    
 which included an expansion at Palmer.                                        
                                                                               
 -In the supplemental budget bill we're asking for more than                  
 $600,000 to replace a boiler in Fairbanks.  Putting more                      
 bodies in a building increases the load on a boiler to carry                  
 the heat and hot water.  At the very least, this decreases the                
 life cycle of the boiler.                                                     
                                                                               
 -KCC is double bunked, it was built for single, but now has                  
 doubles.  There is literally no space for a third bunk.  The                  
 dayroom is rated for the number of inmates for a single bunk.                 
 Half of the inmates are locked down while the other half are                  
 in the dayroom.  The dining room is actually the multi-purpose                
 room where many other of the activities take place.  Inmates                  
 eat in shifts.  If another shift is added, for example, the                   
 multi-purpose dining room is not available for scheduled                      
 afternoon activities.                                                         
                                                                               
 -The Fire Marshall has established exiting criteria, so that                 
 if one would propose housing inmates in areas not designed as                 
 housing, there would be problems with managing exits.  If                     
 exits are internal, etc.                                                      
                                                                               
 -There are standards for minimum ventilation requirements,                   
 typically based on minimum air flows and air changes per hour.                
 Substantial overcrowding would violate these code                             
 requirements.  And while mentioning ventilation codes, I                      
 should point out that prison populations have a relatively                    
 high incidence of TB and hepatitis and other airborne pathogen                
 diseases.  Overcrowding in poorly-ventilated housing units                    
 subject staff and other prisoners to the diseases.  Financial                 
 claims and costly litigation often precede expensive facility                 
 modification.                                                                 
                                                                               
 -One last example ... security control systems have switches                 
 and other moving parts.  Most mechanical devices are rated for                
 x number of uses before failure.  If you double or triple the                 
 number of uses the switches or parts wear out ... their life                  
 cycle is shorter.                                                             
                                                                               
 -And from here we could get into a discussion of existing                    
 deferred maintenance needs.  I will spare you that, except to                 
 say, we have over $13 million in deferred maintenance and                     
 another $9 in equipment.  Over-use of systems just exacerbates                
 the deferred maintenance problem.                                             
                                                                               
 I hope I have answered some questions and given you a broader                
 glimpse into a day in the life of a correctional manager.                     
 It's not simple and not just a matter of how many people can                  
 fit in an elevator.                                                           
                                                                               
  SENATOR MILLER  moved CSSJR 3(JUD) out of committee with individual          
 recommendations.   SENATOR ELLIS  objected and asked about Senator            
 Parnell's drafting concern.  After a brief discussion,  SENATOR               
 MILLER  withdrew his motion so that a definition of "prisoner" could          
 be included in CSSJR 3(JUD).                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 351                                                                    
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN TAYLOR  noted he would be willing to reschedule CSSJR
 3(JUD) at any future hearing, and informed committee members of               
 testimony from Mr. Paul Sweet who was unable to be connected via              
 teleconference.  Mr. Sweet supports SJR 3 and believes prisoners              
 should work 12-hour rotating shifts.                                          

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